Charles Henry Oaten

#169, (19 November 1890-30 July 1973)
FatherCharles Henry Oaten (22 Jan 1866-12 Apr 1951)
MotherCatherine Carroll (27 Sep 1866-6 Oct 1901)
ChartsOaten Family - descendants
Last Edited31 Mar 2022
WikiTree ID:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Oaten-238.
Charles Henry Oaten c1917
Source: M. Nascarella
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Charles was born on Wednesday, 19 November 1890 at the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.1,2 He was the son of Charles Henry Oaten and Catherine Carroll.

In the early 1890's, the family moved a number of times, never staying more than a year or two; to 58 Easey Street Collingwood, then Henderson Street Northcote, then back to Easey Street but this time at number 134 (a small single storey, single-fronted terrace house). By 1896 they finally came to 44 Hilton Street in Clifton Hill - also a single storey, single-fronted terrace house - where their next two children were born.3,4,5,6,7,8
134 Easey Street, Collingwood
[Source: Google Maps]
He presumably lived with his parents at at 105 Spensley Street in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill in December 1897. This house was a wooden house, marked as 103 in the rate book for this year but likley No. 105 (as was same house renumbered in the subsequent year).9,10

The Oaten family moved house again, firstly to 84 Sackville Street, then to 35 Emma Street Collingwood.11,12,13

On 23 July 1901 Charles apparently left the family home leaving Catherine and their seven children aged 2 months to 14 years.14

His mother died 6 October 1901 at the age of 35. Charles was aged 10 when this happened. He was about 10 when this happened.

On Wednesday, 9 October 1901 three days after the death of her mother, Lydia went to live with the nuns in an Abbotsford convent (most likely Sisters of the Good Shepard) in about 1901. Maggie and Kate went to live with the St. Vincent de Paul's Orphanage in Emerald Hill. Their brothers went to a Catholic boys home in South Melbourne (probably St. Vincent de Paul's Boy Orphanage), whilst the youngest daughter Alice initially went to live with neighbours until she was four.15,16,17,18 At the age of 13 Charles Henry Oaten was indentured to Mr. Brazel of Yinnar on 15 November 1904.2

He may have attended the wedding of his brother in the marriage of Albert Edward Oaten and Violet Barbara Cheyne in a Congregational Church ceremony at at the manse 101 Gore Street on Wednesday, 24 November 1909 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Violet needed the consent of her father to marry; both Violet and Albert had lost their mothers in their early teens. Violet and Albert went on to have four children together, three of whom lived to their adulthood.19,20 Charles lived in 1913 at at 117 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.21 He was a boot clicker in 1913.21
Charles Oaten and Maud Cabe
Source: M. Nascarella
Charles and Maud lived in 1914 at at 175 Canning Street in the Melbourne suburb of Carlton.22

Charles Henry Oaten married Maud Cabe, daughter of Henry Cabe and Elizabeth Mellon, in 1914 at Victoria.23

His wife Maud died 1915, leaving him a widower. Charles lived in 1916 at at 17 Victoria Road in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote.24

Charles Henry Oaten began military service on Friday, 3 November 1916 with the 57th Battalion at the Melbourne suburb of Royal Park at age 25. . He had been rejected three times previously.25 He was described as Roman Catholic on his enlistment papers.26 He was described as 5 feet 6 inches tall, of ruddy complexion with brown eyes and dark hair.26

He embarked at Melbourne on Saturday, 16 December 1916.27 Charles was disemabrked at Plymouth on 18 February 1917.27 He spent less than 3 weeks with 15th Training Battalion at Fovant camp, in Fovant, Wiltshire, before he spent 6 days in hospital.27

Charles left Folkestone, Kent, on 14 May 1917.27 Charles was taken on strength with the the 57th Battalion in France on 28 May 1917.27 Charles was taken ill with influenza and went to hospital on 15 August 1917; he stayed there for 10 days; he apparently also had pyorrhoea (or periodontitis).27 Charles only stayed with his unit for another 3 days before going to the hospital again, this time for an extended stay.27 Charles was transferred to No.7 Convalescent Depot Saturday, 1 September 1917 from hospital.27 Charles was transferred to 13th Convalescent Depot on 18 September 1917.28 Charles was transferred to Base Hospital Trouville on 26 October 1917.28 He rejoined his unit on Monday, 5 November 1917.27

Charles was granted 6 weeks leave in England on 18 March 1918.29

Charles was put on a charge 'conduct to the prejudice of good order and military discipline' in that he created a disturbnace in camp after Lights Out.29

He became sick again on Tuesday, 6 August 1918 and was sent to 12th Casualty Clearing Station, and then spent the rest of the war in hospital. For the first time he is diagnosed with Gonorrhoea.27 Charles was transferred to 39th General Hospital, but this time his condition was 'not yet diagnosed'.28 Charles rejoined his unit again on Thursday, 28 November 1918, 2 weeks after the armistice.27

He was granted 2 weeks leave in England on Tuesday, 7 January 1919.30 Charles was detached to work at Headquarters on Thursday, 20 March 1919.27 Charles was admitted to 39th General Hospital with scabies on Monday, 31 March 1919.28

He left England on the 'Prinz Huberus' on Friday, 4 April 1919, bound for Australia.28 Charles was discharged from hospital on Friday, 4 April 1919.28 Charles committed another offence on 10 May 1919 in that he left his post without permission; he was docked 7 days pay. Charles returned to Australia on 24 August 1919 at age 28.31 He was released from active duty on 1 October 1919.31

He married Ida Louisa Hughina Bruce, a hat trimmer, daughter of Sydney Thomas Bruce and Mary Louisa Gedge, in 1919 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Ida was the daughter of Charles' father's second wife i.e. his step-sister, although she was 16 when their parents married...32,33 Charles Henry Oaten was awarded the 1914/1915 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal on 9 February 1920.34

One year after Albert's death, his brother Charles published a memorial in the paper:

OATEN. — In sad and loving remembrace of my dear brother, Albert, who died on the 2nd May, 1919: also llttle Robert, beloved son of above, who died on the 3rd of May, 1917
A life made beautiful by klndly deeds,
A helping hand for others' needs
Good was his heart, his friendship sound,
Loved and respected by all around.
One of the best.
— Inserted by his brother and sister-in-law Charles and Ida.35

He was a worker in the boot trade in 1921.36 Charles and Ida lived in 1921 at at 76 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Preston.36 Charles and Ida lived in 1922 at Preston.37,38 Charles Henry Oaten was a boot clicker in 1924.39 Charles and Ida lived in 1924 at at 17 Kelvin Grove in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote.39 Charles and Ida lived in 1925 at Northcote.40 Charles and Ida lived in 1926 at at Bundoora Road in the Melbourne suburb of Cheltenham.41

He may have attended the wedding of his niece in the marriage of Hubert Nicholson and Mavis Lily Oaten in a Church of England ceremony at All Saints on Saturday, 17 February 1934 at the Melbourne suburb of Kooyong. Mavis married with the consent of her mother. They went on to have some eight children together, only two of whom reached adulthood.42,43

He may have attended the wedding of his niece in the marriage of Harold John Neill and Violet Agnette Oaten at St. John's Church of England on Saturday, 20 January 1940 at the Melbourne suburb of Camberwell. Harold and Violet went on to have two children together.44

His father died 12 April 1951 at the age of 85 at the approximate age of 85. Charles was aged 60 when this happened. He was a person in the boot trade in 1968.45 Charles and Ida lived in 1968 at at 1 Bundora Parade in the Melbourne suburb of Moorabbin.45

Charles died on 30 July 1973 at the Melbourne suburb of Mordialloc at age 82.46,47 His body was interred at Cheltenham Memorial Cemetery in 1973 at the Melbourne suburb of Cheltenham.2,46

Timeline

DateEventPlace
Family
1890Birththe Melbourne suburb of Collingwood1,2
1904Apprenticed2
1913Residence-hide at 117 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood48
1913ResidenceCollingwood21
1913Occupation21
1914Occupation-hide48
1914Residence at 175 Canning Street in the Melbourne suburb of Carlton22
1914MarriageVictoria23
1915Occupation-hide49
1915Residence-hideCarlton49
1916Residence at 17 Victoria Road in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote24
1916Occupation-hide50,24,51
1916Military Startthe Melbourne suburb of Royal Park25
Religion26
Description26
1917Occupation-hide52
1917MilitaryPlymouth27
1917MilitaryFovant camp, in Fovant, Wiltshire27
1917MilitaryFrance27
1917MilitaryFrance27
1917MilitaryFrance27
1917MilitaryFrance27
1917MilitaryFrance28
1917MilitaryFrance28
1917MilitaryFrance27
1918MilitaryFrance28
1918MilitaryFrance27
1919Occupation-hide53
1919MilitaryFrance27
1919MilitaryFrance28
1919MilitaryFrance28
1919Military
1919Mlt return to Aust31
1919Military Discharge31
1919Marriagethe Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy32,33
1920Mlt award34
1920Quotation type 335
1921Occupation-hide37
1921Occupation36
1921Residence at 76 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Preston36
1922ResidencePreston37,38
1924Occupation39
1924Residence at 17 Kelvin Grove in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote39
1925ResidenceNorthcote40
1926Occupation-hide41
1926Residence at Bundoora Road in the Melbourne suburb of Cheltenham41
1927Occupation-hide54
1927Residence-hideCheltenham54
1928Occupation-hide55
1928Residence-hideCheltenham55
1931Occupation-hide56
1931Residence-hideCheltenham56
1936Occupation-hide57
1936Residence-hideCheltenham58
1939Occupation-hide59
1939Residence-hideCheltenham59
1942Occupation-hide60
1942Residence-hideCheltenham60
1968Occupation45
1968Residence at 1 Bundora Parade in the Melbourne suburb of Moorabbin45
1973Deaththe Melbourne suburb of Mordialloc46,47
1973Burial at Cheltenham Memorial Cemetery in the Melbourne suburb of Cheltenham2,46

Family 1

Maud Cabe (c 1890-1915)

Family 2

Ida Louisa Hughina Bruce (c 1895-1984)
Children

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