Violet Barbara Cheyne

#159, (11 April 1889-14 September 1962)
FatherRobert Cheyne (c 1853-1 Mar 1913)
MotherAgnette E. Sörum (c 1849-19 Jul 1901)
ChartsOaten Family - descendants
Barbara Nicholson - ancestors
Last Edited26 Mar 2022
WikiTree ID:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cheyne-852.
Violet Barbara Oaten
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Violet was born at Flemington Road on Thursday, 11 April 1889 at North Melbourne, Victoria. Violet was probably born at home. On her birth certificate, Violet has the fore-names of "Violet Barbara Cheyne" and the place where her father's details and the date and place of their marriage is blank (so her birth is listed under her mother's surname). However, Robert Cheyne is the informant and stated he was the father. It may be that this was due to two factors. Firstly, Robert may have felt that he was somehow still liable for repercussions due to his run-ins with the law when he was a teenager, and because he and Agnette were likely unmarried..1 Violet was born shortly after her parent's emigration from New Zealand. She was the daughter of Robert Cheyne and Agnette E. Sörum.

The family lived in three houses in quick succession; in 1891 they were firstly at 63 Flemington Road, North Melbourne; then at 16 Gardner street in Richmond, then at 10 James Street Fitzroy where they settled and stayed until the turn of the century. This was a 5 room house owned by a Henry Wernberg.2,3,4,5 She presumably lived with her parents at at 116 Fitzroy Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy in July 1901.6,7

Her mother died 19 July 1901 at the approximate age of 50. Violet was aged 12 when this happened.6

Albert Robert Cheyne was arrested at his home at at 307 Young Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy for theft, and the house searched.8,9 She presumably lived with her father at at 121 Kerr Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy in 1905 She probably lived in the same house until she was married.10

She may have attended the wedding of her sister in the marriage of Henry John Barrett and Lily Hawthorne Cheyne in 1906 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Henry and Lily went on to have two known children together.11

On 14 May 1907 her brother Arthur died at the approximate age of 19.
Violet and Albert's signatures from their wedding certificate


She married Albert Edward Oaten, a boot-last maker, son of Charles Henry Oaten and Catherine Carroll, in a Congregational Church ceremony at at the manse 101 Gore Street on Wednesday, 24 November 1909 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. She was 20 and her husband Albert was 21. Violet needed the consent of her father to marry; both Violet and Albert had lost their mothers in their early teens.. Brothers and sisters who may have attended include Lydia Amelia Oaten, Catherine Oaten, Charles Henry Oaten, Henry William Oaten, Margaret Mary Oaten, Lily Hawthorne Cheyne, Albert Robert Cheyne and Daisy Agnnete Cheyne. Violet and Albert went on to have four children together, three of whom lived to their adulthood.12,13 At this time her occupation was given as a confectioner.12



Violet, aged 21 and Albert Edward Oaten, aged 22 became the parents of their first daughter Violet Agnette Oaten on Saturday, 18 June 1910 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy.14 She presumably lived with her spouse Albert at at 14 Fergie Street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy in 1911.15 Violet Barbara Cheyne was recorded as engaged in homeduties in 1912.16 She presumably lived with her spouse Albert at at 868 Nicholson Street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy in 1913.17

Her father died 1 March 1913 at the approximate age of 60.. Violet was aged 23 when this happened. She presumably lived with her spouse Albert at at 15 Coleman street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy in May 1913. They were to stay in this house for another four years.18

Violet, aged 24 and Albert Edward Oaten, aged 25 became the parents of Mavis Lily Oaten on Thursday, 1 May 1913 at North Fitzroy.18,19 Violet had a photograph taken of her on 7 February 1914.

Her husband Albert died 2 May 1919 at the age of 31, leaving her a widow at age 30. He died of influenza during the epidemic.

In another cruel blow, the fourth death in 18 years, their other brother Albert died at the age of 33 on Saturday, 3 May 1919. Violet was 30 when this happened.

A year after Albert's death, his wife Violet published a memorial in the paper:

OATEN.— In loving memory of my dear husband and father, Albert Edward, who died 2nd of May 1919, also our dear brother Albert Robert, who died 3rd May 1917
Just when his life was brightest,
Just when his hopes were best;
He was called away from his loved ones
To a home of perfect rest
If we could have our wish fulfilled
Or choose from heaven what we willed.
Dear husband and daddy, we would ask for you.
We cannot run to meet you daddy,
Or climb upon your knee;
But let this little token tell
We still remember thee.
Inserted by his sorrowing wife and children.20





For the next 5 years, Violet and her children moved addresses a number of times. In 1924 she was living at 162 Queens Parade in North Fitzroy, then seven years later was at 3 Groom Street.21,22 She was a boxmaker in 1924.21 She was recorded as engaged in homeduties, and further records have her doing this as well in 1931.22

Violet, as the mother of the bride, attended the wedding of Mavis and Hubert Nicholson, a radio engineer, in a Church of England ceremony at All Saints on Saturday, 17 February 1934 at the Melbourne suburb of Kooyong. Mavis was 20 and her husband Hubert was 24. Mavis married with the consent of her mother.. Others who attended include, Louise Augusta Fookes as mother of the groom and. Aunts, uncles and grandparents who may have attended include Charles Henry Oaten, Albert Henry Fookes, Winifred Amelia Oaten, Alice Eleanor Mary Oaten, Margaret Mary Oaten, Henry William Oaten, Charles Henry Oaten, Lydia Amelia Oaten, Barbara Hawthorne Cheyne, Lily Hawthorne Cheyne and Daisy Agnnete Cheyne. They went on to have some eight children together, only two of whom reached adulthood.23,24

Five years after that she was living at 68 Riversdale Road Glenferrie, then at 39 Currajong Avenue Camberwell in 1939.25,26

Violet, as the mother of the bride, may have attended the wedding of Violet and Harold John Neill, an ex-football player, at St. John's Church of England on Saturday, 20 January 1940 at the Melbourne suburb of Camberwell.. Frances Jordan as mother of the groom and William Neill as father of the groom. Aunts, uncles and grandparents who may have attended include Lydia Amelia Oaten, Charles Henry Oaten, Henry William Oaten, Margaret Mary Oaten, Alice Eleanor Mary Oaten, Winifred Amelia Oaten, Lily Hawthorne Cheyne and Daisy Agnnete Cheyne. Harold and Violet went on to have two children together.27

Although there is no evidence that she attended the wedding, her may have son Charles married Margaret Alice Hume may have in a Church of England ceremony at All Saints on Saturday, 28 August 1943 at Kooyong. Margaret and Charles went on to have just one known children together.

Christmas for the extended family would take place at a different house each year, with each family bringing meals to contribute to the affair. There would be sing-a-longs of Christmas Carols and a big traditional roast of ham and turkey.28 Violet lived in 1946 at at 106 Robinson Road in the Melbourne suburb of Hawthorn. It is recorded that she was living with her daughter-in-law. Her son apparently lived in the same street but at a different address.29 Violet lived in 1949 at at 322 Queens Parade in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill.30 Violet lived in 1949 at at 82 Rowe Street in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill.31

She married Thomas Charles Gosstray, son of Ben Gosstray and Mary Elizabeth Chinnock, in 1953 at the Melbourne suburb of Kew..32 Violet and Thomas lived in 1954 at at 19 Rowe Street in the Melbourne suburb of Ivanhoe.33 Violet (and presumably her spouse Thomas) lived in September 1962 at at 45 Henry Street in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote.34

Violet died on 14 September 1962 at Northcote at age 73 of coronary sclerosis that she had for years that became an acute occlusion.34,3536
Headstone for Violet, her first husband and their son
Her body was interred at Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery on 17 September 1962 at the Melbourne suburb of Coburg. She is buried in the Church of England section in plot CO-COE*D***543 with her first husband, Albert, and her young son Albert..36,37

Timeline

DateEventPlace
Family
1889BirthFlemington Road, in North Melbourne, Victoria1
Note memo only
1909Marriage at at the manse 101 Gore Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy12,13
1909Married Name
1909Occupation12
1912Occupation16
1912Residence-hide at 14 Fergie Street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy16,38
1913Occupation-hide39
1913Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy40
1914Occupation-hide41
1914Residence-hide at 15 Coleman street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy41
1916Occupation-hide42
1916Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy42,43
1916Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy42,43
1917Occupation-hide44
1917Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy44
1919Occupation-hide45
1919Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy45
1919Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy46
1920Quotation type 320
Note memo only CR CR21,22
1924Residence-hide at 162 Queens Parade in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy21
1924Occupation21
1931Residence-hide at 3 Groom Street in the Melbourne suburb of North Fitzroy22
1931Occupation22
1934Residence-hideNorth Fitzroy23
Note memo only CR CR25,26
1936Residence-hide at 68 Riversdale Road in the Melbourne suburb of Glenferrie25
1936Occupation-hide25
1937Residence-hideGlenferrie47
1937Occupation-hide47
1939Residence-hide at 39 Currajong Avenue in the Melbourne suburb of Camberwell48
1942Occupation-hide26
1942Residence-hide at 44 Robinson Road in the Melbourne suburb of Hawthorn26
1946Residence at 106 Robinson Road in the Melbourne suburb of Hawthorn29
1949Residence at 322 Queens Parade in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill30
1949Occupation-hide31
1949Residence at 82 Rowe Street in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill31
1953Marriagethe Melbourne suburb of Kew32
1949Married Name49
1954Residence at 19 Rowe Street in the Melbourne suburb of Ivanhoe33
1962Occupation-hide34
1962Residence at 45 Henry Street in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote34
1962DeathNorthcote34,35
1962Burial at Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery in the Melbourne suburb of Coburg36,37

Family 1

Albert Edward Oaten (16 Apr 1888-2 May 1919)
Children

Family 2

Thomas Charles Gosstray (1882-1974)

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