John Brown

#338, (circa 1790-13 February 1863)
FatherDaniel Brown (c 1760-)
MotherJannet McNab (c 1758-)
ChartsBrown family - descendants
Miller Family (Scotland) - descendants
Mike Hill - ancestors
Last Edited1 Jan 2023
Biographical Database of Australia ID:X#10033214102.
WikiTree ID:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-121215.

Short Biography

     It isn't certain where John Brown was born; perhaps circa 1789 in Perthshire or circa 1790 in Glasgow.

He married Margaret Miller, daughter of John Miller and his wife Margaret, in St. Ninian's on Saturday 3 July 1813 in Stirling. John was a farm labourer.


John and his wife Margaret emigrated with their six children from Liverpool in 1839 on the 'Heber'. John age was recorded as being 40 years in March 1838 but other sources suggest that he was as much as 9 years older.

John (and presumably his spouse Margaret) lived in October 1848 in Balmain.[16]

There was a John Brown who was a timber merchant in Lane Cove, New South Wales, in 1858 and again 4 years later (who was fined £2 for failing to report as a juror). He was a sawyer in February 1863.

Their children went on to give them at least 50 grandchildren.

John died on 13 February 1863 in Balmain of 'decay of age.[20]'

John Brown's son Alexander had a funeral notice placed in the paper: "The Friends of Mr. ALEXANDER BROWN are respectfully requested to attend the funeral of his late departed father, JOHN The procession to move from his son's residence, St. Andrew's-street, Balmain, THIS (Saturday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 2 o'clock. REUBEN THOMAS, undertaker, 141, York street, near the Wesleyan Chapel.[21]"

His body was interred in South Ground (Old Burial Ground in Devonshire Street) in Sydney.
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John Brown may have been born circa 1789 at Perthshire, Scotland.1 He may have been baptised in February 1789 at Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. However, it is not certain that this baptism record pertains to him. On the baptism, his father's name is listed as Donald (the anglicised version of Daniel.)1,2 He may have been born circa 1790 at Glasgow.3 He was the son of Daniel Brown and Jannet McNab.

He married Margaret Miller, daughter of John Miller and Margaret (?), at St. Ninian's on Saturday, 3 July 1813 at Stirling..4

John and Margaret Miller became the parents of Margaret Brown on Thursday, 14 May 1818 at Stirling.5,6,7 At this time his occupation was given as farm labourer.5

John and his wife Margaret emigrated with their six children from Liverpool on 28 February 1839 on the 'Heber'. John age was recorded as being 40 years in March 1838 but other sources suggest that he was as much as 9 years older. The ship embarked with 178 emmigrants. The family was brought out by Donald McIntyre of Invermein, one of a number of private Scottish emigrant operators who had settled in Australia - he brought out 57 emigrants on the 'Heber', nearly all country people from the Highlands; shepherds and labourers and their families.8,9,10,11,12 After a voyage of nearly 6 months John and his wife Margaret arrived at Botany Bay, New South Wales, on 27 July 1839 with their children. The ship's first port of call had been the Cape of Good Hope, where they embarked a further two passengers. They left the Cape on the 28th of May 1839. The trip was not without tragedy; 5 children died on the voyage.9,13,8


John, as the father of the bride, along with Margaret may have attended the wedding of Margaret and Donald Nicholson, a Scottish carpenter trained as a boatbuilder, in a Presbyterian ceremony at Free Presbyterian Church in Pitt Street on Friday, 19 March 1841 at Sydney. Margaret was 22 and her husband Donald was 29. It isn't known how they met but perhaps it was through Donald's work. After their marriage Donald and Margaret lived in Parramatta at least until the start of the new year.. Others who may have attended include . Together they were to go on to have 10 children over 18 years.14

John, as the father of the bride, along with Margaret may have attended the wedding of Jessie and John Chalmers, a stonemason, at St. Andrew's Scots Presbyterian Church on Monday, 7 June 1841 at Sydney.. Others who may have attended include . John and Jessie went on to have four known children together.15

John, as the father of the bride, along with Margaret attended the wedding of Agnes and John Cameron, a baker, at St. Andrew's Scots Presbyterian Church on Thursday, 31 August 1848 at Sydney.. . John and Agnes went on to have nine known children together.16 John (and presumably his spouse Margaret) lived in October 1848 at the Sydney area of Balmain.16

John, as the father of the groom, along with Margaret may have attended the wedding of Alexander and Mary Ann MacKenzie at St. Stephen's Presbyterian Church in Fort Street on Tuesday, 10 August 1852 at Sydney. Others who may have attended include . Mary and Alexander went on to have 12 known children together.17,18

John, as the father of the bride, along with Margaret may have attended the wedding of Frances and Robert Grigg at St. Andrew's Scots Presbyterian Church on Thursday, 16 November 1854 at Sydney. Frances was 23 and her husband Robert was 24.. Others who may have attended include . Robert and Frances went on to have five known children together.19

John, as the father of the groom, along with Margaret may have attended the wedding of Donald and Charlotte Whyte at St. Andrew's Scots Presbyterian Church on Saturday, 24 February 1855 at Sydney. Others who may have attended include . Charlotte and Donald went on to have nine known children together.20

There was a John Brown who was a timber merchant in Lane Cove, New South Wales, in 1858 and again 4 years later (who was fined £2 for failing to report as a juror.)21,22

Their children went on to give them at least 50 grandchildren. John Brown was a sawyer in February 1863.3

John died on 13 February 1863 at the Sydney suburb of Balmain of 'decay of age'.3

John Brown's son Alexander had a funeral notice placed in the paper on 14 February 1863:
" FUNERAL.-The Friends of Mr. ALEXANDER BROWN are respectfully requested to attend the funeral of his late departed father, JOHN The procession to move from his son's residence, St. Andrew's-street, Balmain, THIS (Saturday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 2 o'clock. REUBEN THOMAS, undertaker, 141, York street, near the Wesleyan Chapel."23

His body was interred at South Ground (Old Burial Ground in Devonshire Street) on 15 February 1863 at Sydney.3

Timeline

DateEventPlace
Family
1789Birth-CandidatePerthshire, Scotland1
1789Baptism-CandidateComrie, Perthshire, Scotland1,2
1790Birth-CandidateGlasgow3
1813MarriageSt. Ninian's, Stirling4
1838Occupation-hide24
1838Occupation5
1839Emigratn-newLiverpool8,9,10,11,12
1839Immigratn-newBotany Bay, New South Wales9,13,8
1848Residencethe Sydney area of Balmain16
1855Occupation-hide25
1858Note memo only CR CRLane Cove, New South Wales21,22
Note memo only CR CR
1863Occupation3
1863Deaththe Sydney suburb of Balmain3
1863Quotation type 223
1863BurialSouth Ground (Old Burial Ground in Devonshire Street), in Sydney3

Family

Margaret Miller (c 1790-1887)
Children

Citations

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  3. [S2] New South Wales, Death Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1863 #1659.
  4. [S410] International Genealogical Index (IGI) Scotland Batch 7630913, Call No. 1058820 (unknown sheet).
  5. [S50] Margaret Brown, "Heber."
  6. [S1] New South Wales, Birth Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1859 No.14301.
  7. [S1] New South Wales, Birth Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1857 No.12375.
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  11. [S1296] Biographical Database of Australia Biographical Database of Australia, (https://www.bda-online.org.au/) Passenger Entitlement Certificates for persons on Bounty Ships 1838-1841
    Miss Jessie Brown, Gender: F; Arrived per Heber Ship Captain: William Thomas; Arrived: 27 Jul 1839; Arrival Status: Free Passenger, at Sydney;, Embarked from: Liverpool [LAN ENG] Embarked for Australia: 28 Feb 1839; Family: Y; Marriage Status: Single; Aged: 17 years; Child; Born at [PER SCT]; Religion: Protestant; Father: John Brown, Employment: Farm Labourer; Mother: [Given name unreadable] Miller, Employment: Farm Servant; Editor's Remarks: Mother's given name torn off; Original number: 020; State Records Ref.: 4/4843 [Biog Item No. 100332135].
  12. [S613] Michael Watt, Descendents of Daniel Brown, April 2013, New Zealand (Tim Hill's collection, \namesBrown) p.9-10.
  13. [S272] Assisted Immigrants to NSW, Archives Office of NSW the 'Heber' 27 Jul 1839.
  14. [S21] Parish Registers for Scot's Church Sydney, 1788-1856 Vol. 75 entry 932.
  15. [S245] Parish Registers for Sydney, 1788-1856 Marriages - County of Cumberland 1841 Vol.75 No.960.
  16. [S245] Parish Registers for Sydney, 1788-1856 Marriages - County of Cumberland 1848 Vol.73B No.1173.
  17. [S3] New South Wales, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1852 Volume V.
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  19. [S245] Parish Registers for Sydney, 1788-1856 Marriages - County of Cumberland 1854 Vol.73B No.1494.
  20. [S245] Parish Registers for Sydney, 1788-1856 Marriages - County of Cumberland 1855 Vol.73B No.1522.
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  24. [S613] Michael Watt, Descendents of Daniel Brown, April 2013, New Zealand (Tim Hill's collection, \namesBrown) p.7.
  25. [S2] New South Wales, Death Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1874 No. 4743.
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