John Oaten

#203, (circa 1802-11 April 1866)
FatherJohn Oaten (1770-20 Nov 1837)
MotherHannah Tamsey (1768-4 May 1848)
ChartsOaten Family - descendants
Barbara Nicholson - ancestors
John Oaten's signature, June 1855
[Source: Marriage Certificate, St. Peter's Eastern Hill, Melbourne]
     NOTE: The information on this page is my research to date and is subject to change as I become better informed. I very much welcome any corrections or additional info you might have - my email address is at the bottom of this page - Tim Hill.
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John was born circa 1802 at Taunton, Somerset.1,2,3 He was the son of John Oaten and Hannah Tamsey. He was baptised at St. George's on Wednesday, 17 March 1802 at Wilton, Somerset.4,5 He presumably moved with his parents to London circa 1811. It isn't clear what prompted the move.3 John Oaten was indentured to John Shave confectioner / pastrycook for 7 years circa 1816 at 51 Curzon Street, in St. George Hanover Square, London.3 John's employer John Shave died circa 1824 leaving him to carry on the business with his widow Ann.6

At or near the end of John Oaten's apprenticeship, John Shave died. Whether for romantic or practical reasons, John Oaten and Ann Weems formed a bond.

He married Ann Weems, at St. George's Hanover Square on Tuesday, 3 August 1824 at London. John was 22 years old, and Ann was about 38 years old. Was the marriage about love, or the business? Or both?.7,5 John Oaten was a confectioner and pastrycook in 1826 at St. George Hanover Square, London.6 John and Ann lived in December 1828 at Curzon Street, Hanover Square, London.8

His wife Ann died 23 December 1828, leaving him a widower.

He married Charlotte Amelia Pellett, daughter of Hugh Pellett and Charlotte Amelia May, at St. George's Hanover Square on Monday, 6 September 1830 at London.9

He may have married Charlotte Amelia Pellett, daughter of Hugh Pellett and Charlotte Amelia May, on Monday, 6 September 1830 at Petersham, Surrey.10 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived in 1837 at Curzon Street, St. George Hanover Square, London.11

In John Oaten's will an unknown person and John Oaten were named joint executors by John to handle his estate on 21 March 1837. John was also to receive his father's gun..3

His father died 20 November 1837 at the approximate age of 67.

He was recorded as head of household in the 1841 census with Charlotte Amelia Pellett (which other records indicate is his spouse) at Hanover Square, London. He was recorded as being 35 years old. Also in the house were two of their young children.12 John Oaten was a confectioner.12 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived circa 1842 at Newland Street, in Belgrave, London.10 John and Charlotte Amelia Pellett may have become the parents of Charles Oaten on Saturday, 27 May 1843 at St. Georges, London.2 John and Charlotte Amelia Pellett became the parents of Charles Oaten on Saturday, 27 May 1843 at Belgrave, London.13,5 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived circa 1848 at Petersham, Surrey.10

He was recorded as head of household in the 1851 census with Charlotte Amelia Pellett as his spouse at 13 Jubilee Place, Chelsea, London. His age was recorded as being 49 years old. Also living in the house were one of their daughters and five of their sons.2,14 John Oaten was a cook and confectioner in April 1851.2

On 17 March 1852 John was to appear as an insolvent debtor:

COURT FOR RELIEF OF INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
See Notice at the end.
The following PERSONS, who, on their several Petitions filed in the Court, have obtained Interim Orders for protection from process, are required to appear in Court as hereinafter mentioned, at the Court-House, in Portugal street, Lincoln's-Inn, as follows, to be examined and dealt with according to the Statute:
John Oaten, formerly of No. 4, Newland-street, Eaton square, Middlesex, Cook, afterwards of No. 10, Caroline street, Eaton-square aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 1, Parkplace, Petersham, Surrey, Cook at the Star and Garter, Richmond, Surrey, afterwards of Kew Foot-lane, Richmond aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 4, Cambridgeplace, Paddington, Middlesex, Cook to her Majesty's 2nd Regiment of Life Guards, and now of No. 13, Jubilee-place, Chelsea, Cook to Mr. Win. Walter Mabey, of No. 33, New Bond-street, Middlesex, Turtle Dealer.14

He was a steward in December 1853.15 John and his wife Charlotte arrived at Melbourne on 12 June 1854.16,17

John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived in June 1855 at Collingwood.18 John Oaten was a confectioner in June 1855.18 John, as the father of the bride, attended Amelia Oaten and Peter Godwin Leith's wedding at St. Peter's on Saturday, 30 June 1855 at Melbourne.19,18,20 John Oaten was a cook in 1856.21 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived in 1858 at at 17 King William Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. They had moved from this address by 1861.22,23 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte) lived in 1862 at at 38 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood.24

His wife Charlotte died 12 July 1862 at the aproximate age of 58, leaving him a widower. John lived in 1863 at at 46 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood.25 John lived in 1866 at at 75 Smith Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy.26 John lived in April 1866 at at 23 Stanley Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.27

John died on 11 April 1866 at Melbourne.1,27,5

Family 1

Ann Weems (1786-22 Dec 1828)
Children

Family 2

Charlotte Amelia Pellett (c Oct 1803-12 Jul 1862)
Children

Citations

  1. [S265] Victoria, Death Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages, 1866 No.5597.
  2. [S392] National Census for England, 1851 (online image) Class: HO107; Piece: 1473; Folio: 249; Page: 10; GSU roll: 87796.
  3. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.5.
  4. [S911] WikiTree (http://www.wikitree.com/) http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Oaten-10 (For place of baptism).
  5. [S278] Gordon Oaten, Oaten Family Chart.
  6. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.6.
  7. [S494] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name:     John Baten [John Oaten]; Spouse: Ann Shave; Record Type: Marriage; Event Date: 3 Aug 1824;
    Parish: St George Hanover Square; Borough: Westminster; Register Type: Bishop's Transcript.
  8. [S818] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 Name: Ann Oaten; Record Type: Burial; Age: 42; Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786; Death Date: abt 1828; Burial Date: 24 Dec 1828; Burial Place: St George Hanover Square, England; Parish or Poor Law Union:     St George Hanover Square; Borough: Westminster; Register Type: Bishop's Transcript.
  9. [S786] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 Event Date:     6 Sep 1830; Parish: Hanover Square, St George; Event Type:     Allegation; Reference Number: DL/A/D/008/MS10091/208.
  10. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.7.
  11. [S941] Unknown author Westminster Election - 26 July 1837 p.25 (https://books.google.com.au/books).
  12. [S397] National Census for England, 1841 (online image) Class: HO107; Piece: 734; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 11; Page: 15; Line: 5; GSU roll: 438836.
  13. [S267] Letter from Pat Lyon, to Tim Hill.
  14. [S784] The London Gazette, Publication date: 2 March 1852, Issue:21297, Page:693 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/21297/page/693
  15. [S930] Victoria Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, Public Record Office Victoria Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1854, Arrival Port: Adelaide and Port Phillip Bay, Australia, Departure Port: London, Ship: Luconia.
  16. [S930] Victoria Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, Public Record Office Victoria Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1854, Arrival Port: Adelaide and Port Phillip Bay, Australia, Departure Port: London, Ship: Luconia (This source has the arrival date as 23 Jun 1854).
  17. [S611] The Portland Guardian and Normanby General Advertiser, 1854 'PORT OF MELBOURNE.', Portland Guardian and Normanby General Advertiser (Vic. : 1842 - 1876), 19 June, p. 2 Edition: EVENING, viewed 9 April, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71570395
  18. [S936] Various, Extracted Parish Records, 1848-1955 Peter Leith / Amelia Oaten 1855.
  19. [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1855 No.1081.
  20. [S372] GEDCOM file created by Arthur Russ, 21 April 2011 (Tim Hill's collection, GEDCOMS received).
  21. [S483] Australia - Electoral Rolls 1900-1980, (Ancestry.com, (no ref.)) Victoria Electorate of Collingwood, Subdivision of Glasshouse 1856 (p.24).
  22. [S929] Victoria, Rate Books, 1855-1963 City of Fitzroy [copy of VPRS 377] [1864-1901] King William Street 1858-59.
  23. [S355] Sands and McDougall Victorian Directories, various dates 1859 p.196 (for street number).
  24. [S355] Sands and McDougall Victorian Directories, various dates 1862 p.277, p.123.
  25. [S931] Unknown directory type, unknown date 1863 p.300, p.120.
  26. [S931] Unknown directory type, unknown date 1866 p.358.
  27. [S336] The Argus, 1866 'Family Notices', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 13 April, p. 4. , viewed 02 Jan 2017, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5789757