John Oaten

#203, (circa 1802-11 April 1866)
FatherJohn Oaten (1770-20 Nov 1837)
MotherHannah Tamsey (1768-4 May 1848)
ChartsOaten Family - descendants
Barbara Nicholson - ancestors
Last Edited15 Sep 2022
WikiTree ID:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Oaten-10.
John Oaten's signature, June 1855
[Source: Marriage Certificate, St. Peter's Eastern Hill, Melbourne]
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John was born circa 1802 at Taunton, Somerset.1,2,3 He was the son of John Oaten and Hannah Tamsey. John Oaten was baptised at St. George's on Wednesday, 17 March 1802 at Wilton, Somerset.4,5 He presumably moved with his parents to London circa 1811. It isn't clear what prompted the move.3 John Oaten was indentured to John Shave confectioner / pastrycook for 7 years circa 1816 at 51 Curzon Street, St. George Hanover Square, London.3 John's employer John Shave died circa 1824 leaving him to carry on the business with his widow Ann.6

At or near the end of John Oaten's apprenticeship, John Shave died. Whether for romantic or practical reasons, John Oaten and Ann Weems formed a bond.

He married Ann Weems, a widow marrying for the second time, daughter of John Weems, in a Church of England cermony at St. George's Hanover Square on Tuesday, 3 August 1824 at London. John was 22 years old, and Ann was about 38 years old. Was the marriage about love, or the business? Or both?..7,5 John Oaten was a confectioner and pastrycook in 1826 at St. George Hanover Square, London.6 John and Annlived in December 1828 at Curzon Street, Hanover Square, London.8

His wife Ann died 23 December 1828, leaving him a widower.

He married Charlotte Amelia Pellett, daughter of Hugh Pellett and Charlotte Amelia May, in a Church of England ceremony by licence at St. George's Hanover Square on Monday, 6 September 1830 at London. John was married two weeks after his younger sister Harriet in the same church.. Charlotte was the daughter of a labourer..9,10

He may have married Charlotte Amelia Pellett, daughter of Hugh Pellett and Charlotte Amelia May, on Monday, 6 September 1830 at Petersham, Surrey..11 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in February 1834 at Hanover Square, London.12 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in 1837 at Curzon Street, St. George Hanover Square, London.13

In John Oaten's will William Edward Gillett and John Oaten were named joint executors by John to handle his estate on 21 March 1837. John was also to receive his father's gun..3

His father died 20 November 1837 at the approximate age of 67.

He was recorded as head of household in the 1841 census with Charlotte Amelia Pellett (which other records indicate is his spouse) at Hanover Square, London. He was recorded as being 35 years old. Also in the house were two of their young children.14 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived circa 1842 at Newland Street, in Belgrave, London.11

John and Charlotte Amelia Pellett may have become the parents of Charles Oaten on Saturday, 27 May 1843 at St. George Hanover Square Registration District, London.15,2

On 14 December 1844 his brother Henry died at the age of 32. John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived circa 1846 at 10 Caroline Street, Eaton Square, London.16,11 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived circa 1848 at Petersham, Surrey.11

He was recorded as head of household in the 1851 census with Charlotte Amelia Pellett as his spouse at 13 Jubilee Place, Chelsea, London. His age was recorded as being 49 years old. Also living in the house were one of their daughters and five of their sons.2,17 John Oaten was a cook and confectioner in April 1851.2

On 17 March 1852 John was to appear as an insolvent debtor:

COURT FOR RELIEF OF INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
See Notice at the end.
The following PERSONS, who, on their several Petitions filed in the Court, have obtained Interim Orders for protection from process, are required to appear in Court as hereinafter mentioned, at the Court-House, in Portugal street, Lincoln's-Inn, as follows, to be examined and dealt with according to the Statute:
John Oaten, formerly of No. 4, Newland-street, Eaton square, Middlesex, Cook, afterwards of No. 10, Caroline street, Eaton-square aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 1, Park place, Petersham, Surrey, Cook at the Star and Garter, Richmond, Surrey, afterwards of Kew Foot-lane, Richmond aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 4, Cambridge place, Paddington, Middlesex, Cook to her Majesty's 2nd Regiment of Life Guards, and now of No. 13, Jubilee-place, Chelsea, Cook to Mr. Win. Walter Mabey, of No. 33, New Bond-street, Middlesex, Turtle Dealer.17

John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in September 1853 at Kings Parade, in Chelsea, London.18

Given his insolvency, it isn't surprising that he chose to emigrate to the colonies to have a fresh start. He sought passage, describing himself as a steward.19

John and his wife Charlotte emigrated with their six children from London on 30 December 1853 on the the barque 'Luconia.19,20' John and his wife Charlotte arrived at Melbourne on 12 June 1854.21,20
John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in June 1855 at the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.22 John Oaten was a confectioner in June 1855.22

John, as the father of the bride, along with Charlotte attended the wedding of Amelia and Peter Godwin Leith, a clerk, in a Church of England ceremony at St. Peter's on Saturday, 30 June 1855 at Melbourne. Amelia was 19 and her husband Peter was 28.. . Peter and Amelia went on to have nine children together.23,22,24 John Oaten was a cook in 1856.25 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in 1858 at at 17 King William Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. They had moved from this address by 1861.26,27 John (and presumably his spouse Charlotte)lived in 1862 at at 38 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood.28

His wife Charlotte died 12 July 1862 at the approximate age of 58, leaving him a widower. Johnlived in 1863 at at 46 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood.29

John, as the father of the groom, attended the wedding of Charles and Harriet Louisa Roberts, a domestic born in Tasmania, a civil service at the Registry Office on Saturday, 25 February 1865 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Harriet had to get prior permission from a JP due to her age. It's not clear why they chose a civil service over a religious one. Others who may have attended include . Harriet and Charles went on to have six children together, three of whom lived into their adulthood.30 Johnlived in 1866 at at 75 Smith Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy.31 Johnlived in April 1866 at at 23 Stanley Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.32

John died on 11 April 1866 at Melbourne. He was aged about 64.1,32,5 His body was interred at Melbourne General Cemetery at the Melbourne suburb of Carlton.33

Timeline

DateEventPlace
Family
1802BirthTaunton, Somerset1,2,3
1802BaptismSt. George's, Wilton, Somerset4,5
1816Apprenticed51 Curzon Street, St. George Hanover Square, London3
Note memo only CR CR
1824MarriageSt. George's Hanover Square, in London7,5
1826OccupationSt. George Hanover Square, London6
1828ResidenceCurzon Street, Hanover Square, London8
1830Residence-hideHanover Square, London9
1830MarriageLondon9,10
1830Marriage-candidatePetersham, Surrey11
1834Occupation-hide12
1834ResidenceHanover Square, London12
1837ResidenceCurzon Street, St. George Hanover Square, London13
1841Census (Eng) 1841Hanover Square, London14
Occupation-hide14
1842ResidenceNewland Street, in Belgrave, London11
1846Residence10 Caroline Street, Eaton Square, London16,11
1848ResidencePetersham, Surrey11
1851Census (Eng) 185113 Jubilee Place, Chelsea, London2,17
1851Occupation2
1852Quotation type 3Court House in Portugal Street, in Lincoln's Inn, London17
1853ResidenceKings Parade, in Chelsea, London18
1853Occupation-hide19
Note memo only CR CR19
1853Emigratn-newLondon19,20
1854Immigratn-newMelbourne21,20
1855Residencethe Melbourne suburb of Collingwood22
1855Occupation22
1856Residence-hide at Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood25
1856Occupation25
1858Residence at 17 King William Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy26,27
1862Residence at 38 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood28
1863Residence at 46 Oxford Street in the Melbourne suburb of East Collingwood29
1866Residence at 75 Smith Street in the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy31
1866Residence at 23 Stanley Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood32
1866DeathMelbourne1,32,5
Burial at Melbourne General Cemetery in the Melbourne suburb of Carlton33

Family 1

Ann Weems (1786-22 Dec 1828)
Children

Family 2

Charlotte Amelia Pellett (c Oct 1803-12 Jul 1862)
Children

Citations

  1. [S265] Victoria, Death Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1866 No.5597.
  2. [S392] National Census for England, 1851 (online image) Class: HO107; Piece: 1473; Folio: 249; Page: 10; GSU roll: 87796.
  3. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.5.
  4. [S911] WikiTree (http://www.wikitree.com/) http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Oaten-10 (For place of baptism).
  5. [S278] Gordon Oaten, Oaten Family Chart.
  6. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.6.
  7. [S494] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name:     John Baten [John Oaten]; Spouse: Ann Shave; Record Type: Marriage; Event Date: 3 Aug 1824;
    Parish: St George Hanover Square; Borough: Westminster; Register Type: Bishop's Transcript.
  8. [S818] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 Name: Ann Oaten; Record Type: Burial; Age: 42; Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786; Death Date: abt 1828; Burial Date: 24 Dec 1828; Burial Place: St George Hanover Square, England; Parish or Poor Law Union:     St George Hanover Square; Borough: Westminster; Register Type: Bishop's Transcript.
  9. [S786] London. London Metropolitan Archives, London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 Event Date:     6 Sep 1830; Parish: Hanover Square, St George; Event Type:     Allegation; Reference Number: DL/A/D/008/MS10091/208.
  10. [S1374] Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 Tim Hill's collection, (ancestry.com) Name: John Oaten; Gender: Male; Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1830; Marriage Place: St George, Hanover Square, London, Westminster, England; Parish as it Appears: St George, Hanover Square; Spouse: Charlotte Amelia Pellettt.
  11. [S939] Iolene McArthur,"Oaten: The New Zealand Branch," manuscript, Oaten family in New Zealand , March 1995. Currently held by Tim Hill's collection, e-mail address p.7.
  12. [S1373] Westminster, London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919 Tim Hill's collection, (ancestry.com) Name: John Oaten; Gender: Male; Spouse:     Charlotte Amelia Oaten; Child: Charlotte Oaten.
  13. [S941] Unknown author Westminster Election - 26 July 1837 p.25 (https://books.google.com.au/books).
  14. [S397] National Census for England, 1841 (online image) Class: HO107; Piece: 734; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 11; Page: 15; Line: 5; GSU roll: 438836.
  15. [S507] FreeBMD (http://www.freebmd.org.uk/) St. George Hanover Square.
  16. [S1373] Westminster, London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919 Tim Hill's collection, (ancestry.com) Name: Charlotte Amelia Oaten; Gender: Female; Spouse: John Oaten; Child: Albert Edward Oaten.
  17. [S784] The London Gazette, London, England, Publication date: 2 March 1852, Issue:21297, Page:693 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/21297/page/693
  18. [S1375] Various, Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1917, 1813-1917 Name: Charlotte Amelia Oaten; Gender: Female; Spouse: John Oaten; Child: Frederick Edmund Oaten.
  19. [S930] Victoria Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, Public Record Office Victoria Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1854, Arrival Port: Adelaide and Port Phillip Bay, Australia, Departure Port: London, Ship: Luconia.
  20. [S611] The Portland Guardian and Normanby General Advertiser, Victoria, Australia, 1854 'PORT OF MELBOURNE.', Portland Guardian and Normanby General Advertiser (Vic. : 1842 - 1876), 19 June, p. 2 Edition: EVENING, viewed 9 April, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71570395
  21. [S930] Victoria Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, Public Record Office Victoria Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1854, Arrival Port: Adelaide and Port Phillip Bay, Australia, Departure Port: London, Ship: Luconia (This source has the arrival date as 23 Jun 1854).
  22. [S936] Various, Extracted Parish Records, 1848-1955 Peter Leith / Amelia Oaten 1855.
  23. [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1855 No.1081.
  24. [S372] GEDCOM file created by Arthur Russ, 21 April 2011.
  25. [S483] Australia - Electoral Rolls 1900-1980 - Ancestry.com, Victoria Electorate of Collingwood, Subdivision of Glasshouse 1856 (p.24).
  26. [S929] Victoria, Rate Books, 1855-1963 City of Fitzroy [copy of VPRS 377] [1864-1901] King William Street 1858-59.
  27. [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1859 p.196 (for street number).
  28. [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1862 p.277, p.123.
  29. [S931] Sands Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1863 p.300, p.120.
  30. [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1865 No.1121.
  31. [S931] Sands Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1866 p.358.
  32. [S336] The Argus, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1866 'Family Notices', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 13 April, p. 4. , viewed 02 Jan 2017, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5789757
  33. [S466] Find a Grave (http://www.findagrave.com) Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201831799/john-oaten: accessed 15 September 2022), memorial page for John Oaten (1802–13 Apr 1866), Find a Grave Memorial ID 201831799, citing Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton North, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia; Maintained by Tony M. (contributor 48299134) .