Lydia Amelia Oaten
#172, (1887-1953)
| Father | Charles Henry Oaten (22 Jan 1866-12 Apr 1951) |
| Mother | Catherine Carroll (27 Sep 1866-6 Oct 1901) |
| Charts | Oaten Family - descendants |
| Last Edited | 4 Sep 2022 |
| WikiTree ID: | https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Oaten-241. |
Lydia Amelia Oaten was also known as Lilly.1 Her common name was Lil.2 NOTE: The information on this page is my research to date and is subject to change as I become better informed. I very much welcome any corrections or additional info you might have - my email address is at the bottom of this page. Whilst historical facts are not copyright, my writing about these facts are. If you wish to use any text from this site on Ancestry or on any other website, please ask me first - Tim Hill.
She was born in 1887 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy.3,4 She was the daughter of Charles Henry Oaten and Catherine Carroll.
In the early 1890's, the family moved a number of times, never staying more than a year or two; to 58 Easey Street Collingwood, then Henderson Street Northcote, then back to Easey Street but this time at number 134 (a small single storey, single-fronted terrace house). By 1896 they finally came to 44 Hilton Street in Clifton Hill - also a single storey, single-fronted terrace house - where their next two children were born.5,6,7,8,9,10
She presumably lived with her parents at at 105 Spensley Street in the Melbourne suburb of Clifton Hill in December 1897. This house was a wooden house, marked as 103 in the rate book for this year but likley No. 105 (as was same house renumbered in the subsequent year).11,12
The Oaten family moved house again, firstly to 84 Sackville Street, then to 35 Emma Street Collingwood.13,14,15
On 23 July 1901 Charles apparently left the family home leaving Catherine and their seven children aged 2 months to 14 years.1
Her mother died 6 October 1901 at the age of 35.
On Wednesday, 9 October 1901 three days after the death of her mother, Lydia went to live with the nuns in an Abbotsford convent (most likely Sisters of the Good Shepard) in about 1901. Maggie and Kate went to live with the St. Vincent de Paul's Orphanage in Emerald Hill. Their brothers went to a Catholic boys home in South Melbourne (probably St. Vincent de Paul's Boy Orphanage), whilst the youngest daughter Alice initially went to live with neighbours until she was four. She was then made a ward of the state at Royal Park and lost track of her family until she was seventeen. She became aware of her family when she was sent a cheque.16,17,18,19
She married Alfred James Brooks, in 1905 at Fitzroy..20
She may have attended the wedding of her brother in the marriage of Albert Edward Oaten and Violet Barbara Cheyne in a Congregational Church ceremony at at the manse 101 Gore Street on Wednesday, 24 November 1909 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Violet needed the consent of her father to marry; both Violet and Albert had lost their mothers in their early teens. Violet and Albert went on to have four children together, three of whom lived to their adulthood.21,22 Lydia's occupation was given as 'home duties' in 1914.23 Lydia and Alfred lived in 1914 at at 117 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.23
One year after Albert's death his sister Lydia published a memorial in the paper:
Lydia lived in 1931 at at 1 Carroll Street in the Melbourne suburb of Preston.24
She may have attended the wedding of her niece in the marriage of Hubert Nicholson and Mavis Lily Oaten in a Church of England ceremony at All Saints on Saturday, 17 February 1934 at the Melbourne suburb of Kooyong. Mavis married with the consent of her mother. They went on to have some eight children together, only two of whom reached adulthood.25,26
She may have attended the wedding of her niece in the marriage of Harold John Neill and Violet Agnette Oaten at St. John's Church of England on Saturday, 20 January 1940 at the Melbourne suburb of Camberwell. The marriage was featured on the 'Weddings and Engagements' page of The Age and included a photo. Harold and Violet went on to have two children together.27,28
Lydia died in 1953 at Victoria.29
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She was born in 1887 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy.3,4 She was the daughter of Charles Henry Oaten and Catherine Carroll.
In the early 1890's, the family moved a number of times, never staying more than a year or two; to 58 Easey Street Collingwood, then Henderson Street Northcote, then back to Easey Street but this time at number 134 (a small single storey, single-fronted terrace house). By 1896 they finally came to 44 Hilton Street in Clifton Hill - also a single storey, single-fronted terrace house - where their next two children were born.5,6,7,8,9,10
134 Easey Street, Collingwood
[Source: Google Maps]
[Source: Google Maps]
The Oaten family moved house again, firstly to 84 Sackville Street, then to 35 Emma Street Collingwood.13,14,15
On 23 July 1901 Charles apparently left the family home leaving Catherine and their seven children aged 2 months to 14 years.1
Her mother died 6 October 1901 at the age of 35.
On Wednesday, 9 October 1901 three days after the death of her mother, Lydia went to live with the nuns in an Abbotsford convent (most likely Sisters of the Good Shepard) in about 1901. Maggie and Kate went to live with the St. Vincent de Paul's Orphanage in Emerald Hill. Their brothers went to a Catholic boys home in South Melbourne (probably St. Vincent de Paul's Boy Orphanage), whilst the youngest daughter Alice initially went to live with neighbours until she was four. She was then made a ward of the state at Royal Park and lost track of her family until she was seventeen. She became aware of her family when she was sent a cheque.16,17,18,19
She married Alfred James Brooks, in 1905 at Fitzroy..20
She may have attended the wedding of her brother in the marriage of Albert Edward Oaten and Violet Barbara Cheyne in a Congregational Church ceremony at at the manse 101 Gore Street on Wednesday, 24 November 1909 at the Melbourne suburb of Fitzroy. Violet needed the consent of her father to marry; both Violet and Albert had lost their mothers in their early teens. Violet and Albert went on to have four children together, three of whom lived to their adulthood.21,22 Lydia's occupation was given as 'home duties' in 1914.23 Lydia and Alfred lived in 1914 at at 117 Hotham Street in the Melbourne suburb of Collingwood.23
One year after Albert's death his sister Lydia published a memorial in the paper:
OATEN.— ln loving remembrance or my dear brother, Albert who passed away on the 2nd May, 1919; also Albert Robert, son of the above, died on the 3rd May 1917.
Time changes many things,
But memory. like the ivy, clings.
There's a link that death cannot sever
Love and rememberence last for ever.
Like the ivy, remembrance clings,
— Inserted by his loving sister and brother-in-law, Lil and Alf.2
Time changes many things,
But memory. like the ivy, clings.
There's a link that death cannot sever
Love and rememberence last for ever.
Like the ivy, remembrance clings,
— Inserted by his loving sister and brother-in-law, Lil and Alf.2
Lydia lived in 1931 at at 1 Carroll Street in the Melbourne suburb of Preston.24
She may have attended the wedding of her niece in the marriage of Hubert Nicholson and Mavis Lily Oaten in a Church of England ceremony at All Saints on Saturday, 17 February 1934 at the Melbourne suburb of Kooyong. Mavis married with the consent of her mother. They went on to have some eight children together, only two of whom reached adulthood.25,26
She may have attended the wedding of her niece in the marriage of Harold John Neill and Violet Agnette Oaten at St. John's Church of England on Saturday, 20 January 1940 at the Melbourne suburb of Camberwell. The marriage was featured on the 'Weddings and Engagements' page of The Age and included a photo. Harold and Violet went on to have two children together.27,28
Lydia died in 1953 at Victoria.29
Family | Alfred James Brooks (c 1881-1955) |
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Citations
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- [S921] The Age, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1920 'Family Notices', The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), 1 May, p. 4. , viewed 29 Dec 2016, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article203703464
- [S8] Victoria, Birth Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1887 No.8979.
- [S372] GEDCOM file created by Arthur Russ, 21 April 2011.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1892 p.1015.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1891 p.1019.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1893 p.970.
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- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1895 p.971, p.190.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1896 p.990, p.175.
- [S929] Victoria, Rate Books, 1855-1963 City of Collingwood [copy of VPRS 377] [1864-1901] Spensley Street 1897.
- [S929] Victoria, Rate Books, 1855-1963 City of Collingwood [copy of VPRS 377] [1864-1901] Spensley Street 1898.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1901 p.1122, p.248.
- [S929] Victoria, Rate Books, 1855-1963 City of Collingwood [copy of VPRS 377] [1864-1901] Emma Street 1900.
- [S355] Sands and McDougall Directories,Victoria, Australia (various dates), 1900 p.1086, p.238.
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- [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1909 No.9213.
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- [S483] Australia - Electoral Rolls 1900-1980 - Ancestry.com, Electorate of Yarra, Subdivision of Collingwood 1914 p.11.
- [S483] Australia - Electoral Rolls 1900-1980 - Ancestry.com, Electorate of Batman, Subdivision of Preston 19 p.31.
- [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1934 No.536.
- [S266] Mavis Nicholson (nee Oaten), Windsor.
- [S336] The Argus, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1940 ''Maids In Pink Marquisette.', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956), 22 January, p. 8, viewed 2 September, 2012, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11269816
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- [S265] Victoria, Death Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1953 No.13018 (index only).
- [S264] Victoria, Marriage Certificate, Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages 1933 No.10710 (index only).
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